Il
fait réf aux documents et il a fallu aller chercher
des phrases obscures prononcées dans des conféreences
et non ce qu'il a écrit dans ses livres; cite des passages
d'H.W. où il condamne formellement ah. Il
dit la même chose que les autres sur la responsabilitéglobale
de ah en tant que chef de l'ét at, mais diffère
en ce qu'il ne voit aucune preuve du rôle personnel dans
l'organisation.
To summarise, in Hitler's
War I differed from other historians in suggesting that the
actual mass murders were not all or mainly initiated by Hitler.
I pointed out that my sources were consistent with another explanation:
A conscious desire "not to know" (I referred to a Richard
Nixon kind of complex).14 n.
He cites the professor A;J; Taylor, qui dit qu'on n'ira pas
loin tant qu'on attribuera tout à ah.,,,,,,,
Exchange with Evans: IRVING: You said that my footnotes are
opaque because they do not always give the page reference. Do
you agree that, on a page which we are going to come across in
the course of this morning, of your own expert report, you put
a footnote in just saying "See Van Pelt's report", see
expert report by Robert van Pelt, and that expert report is about
769 pages long, is it not?16;
Pour les mauvaises traductions: dans les
éditions allemandes, il n'y a pas de traduction!; (ibid,
next paragraph)
Les documents sur lesquels il a travaillé
n'était pas édités; les éditions auxquelles
font réf ses adversaires sont plus tardives.
A propos de la nuit de cristal: il maintient
son affirmation que ah a voulu l'arrêter parce
qu'elle est fondée sur des documents. Burrin pense
la même chose que lui.
Evans a avoué qu'il n'avait pas
lu tout le texte du journal de Goebbels.
Il réaffirme qu'il n'est pas spécialiste
de l'holocoste mais biographe et historien de la guerre.
- My various references to Marie Vaillant-Couturier seem to have been
quite justified, from what we know of her and of her full testimony
to the Nuremberg tribunal in 1946. She had married the editor
of l'Humanité, she and her father were bosom friends
of Willi Münzenberg, author of the propaganda about the
Reichstag Fire - a founder member and one of the most accomplished
propagandists of the Comintern. It is evident from the way that
the hard-pressed defence counsel Marx conducted his cross-examination
of her that he was implying to the tribunal that she had not
even been in Auschwitz. Your Lordship will remember that she
described to the IMT a beating-machine used by the SS to administer
corporal punishment. Her testimony is riddled with such absurdities,
and when the experienced American Judge Biddle jotted down his
sceptical comment on this witness, even as she was still speaking,
he meant it - and I certainly took it in that way - to be a reference
to all that he had heard (and largely disbelieved) up to that
point.
Les mémoires d'eichmann: il y décrit d'affrexu spectacles auxquels
il a assisté, mais il n'a jamais
vu de chambre à gaz...
Hilberg et l'ordre de hitler:
- In a similar step, which I
think I took to appease the now worried American publishers,
I wrote in December 1975 to four or five of the major international
Jewish historical research institutions, appealing for "evidence
proving Hitler's guilt in the extermination of the Jews."
All of these inquiries by me drew a blank, except for one. As
I summarised in a letter to The Sunday Telegraph on June
19, 1977, "... all offered their apologies, except Professor
Raul Hilberg, author of the standard history on the subject,
who honourably conceded that he too has come to the view that
Hitler may not have known." (His letter is in my Discovery).26
,
Les organisations juives contre Irving:
- " these bodies [jewish
organizations], acting with that secret and common purpose, compiled
dossiers and reports on me with the intention of destroying me.
They did so exercising no proper care for accuracy; and, as is
evident from the Second Defendant's Discovery, and from the Introduction
to her book in which she explicitly acknowledges the assistance
provided by many of these bodies, she drew upon these tainted
wellsprings as the source for much of the poison she wrote about
me.27
We shall hear that, buried in the files of the Simon Wiesenthal
Centre in Toronto, is a document, now also in ms. Lipstadt's
files - they sent it to her - which forms something of a blueprint
for the attempt to destroy my name. A researcher for the Centre,
commissioned to investigate my life in detail, recommended in
that compilation, after referring to my "thorough archival
research" and "genuine historical insight" as
follows: "Given
this accurate version of reality, it is all the more clear why
his activities must be curtailed, and why his [David Irving's]
alleged legitimacy must be eradicated."
A propos de Wannsee et de son objet:
- "I
have read again the printed version of the meeting of the Generalgouvernement
authorities Hans Frank on December 16, 1941. It is significant
to see the amount of space taken, even in this abridged published
version, by the typhus epidemic sweeping through the region,
the climax of which was expected to come in April 1942 (pages
"68 72"). Frank states that he has begun negotiations
with the purpose of deporting the Jews to the east, and he mentions
the big Heydrich conference set down for January 1942 on this
topic in Berlin (page "73"). On page "74"
comes the sentence which pulls out the rug from beneath the Defendants'
feet: "For
us, the Jews are exceptionally damaging mouths to feed. We've
got an estimated 2.5m in the Generalgouvernement, perhaps 3.5m
Jews now, what with all their kinfolk and hangers-on. We can't
shoot these 3.5m Jews, we can't poison them, but we'll be able
to do something with them, which somehow or other will have the
result of destroying them, in fact, in conjunction with the grander
measures still to be discussed at Reich level." Clearly, only a geographical solution
was at that time on the cards, and anticipated at the Berlin
(i.e. Wannsee
conference).
- The December 18, 1941 diary
entry by Himmler reads: Judenfrage | als Partisanen auszurotten.
Himmler had, as I pointed out to the Court, repeatedly referred
in earlier documents to the phrase "Juden als Partisanen". This was nothing new or sensational therefore,
and the words he was recording were not necessarily Hitler's
but more probably his own stereotype phrase. The correct, pedantic
translation, is in any case: "Jewish Problem | to be wiped out as
being partisans." Not
"like partisans", which would have been "wie Partisanen."
There can be no equivocating about this translation of als. Wie
is a comparison, als is an equivalent.23,"
A propos de la "solution finale"
en 1942:
- Another most difficult piece of historical paper
for my opponents is the Schlegelberger Document. In late March
or early April 1942, after seeing
Germany's top civil servant, who reported only to Hitler, Franz
Schlegelberger dictated this famous memorandum, upon which all
Holocaust historians, and the Defendants' expert witnesses in
this case have hitherto turned enough blind eyes to have won
several battles of Trafalgar. For many years after the war it
vanished: but that is another story. Asked about this specific
document after a lecture in the German Institute, here in London
in November 1998, Dr Longerich, who is now the Defendants' expert
witness, had the function's chairman rise to inform the audience
that the speaker was not prepared to answer questions from David
Irving. It is a genuine document, referring in one breath both
to Hitler and the Solution of the Jewish Problem. Confronted
with it in the witness box, he and his fellow experts have argued,
either that it was totally unimportant; or that it concerned
only the Mischlinge, the mixed race Jews, and not the Final Solution
in any broader sense. Ingeniously, Dr Longerich even tried to
suggest that it originated in 1940 or 1941. The document has
them in a breathless panic.
- The document's own contents
destroy their latter argument: In the first sentence, it says:
"Mr Reich Minister Lammers informed me that the Führer
had repeatedly declared to him that he wants to hear that the
Solution of the Jewish Problem has been adjourned [or postponed]
until after the war." That this is the broader Final Solution
is plain from the second sentence which shows namely that the
Mischling question was something different: "Accordingly,"
the memorandum continues, "the current deliberations have
in the opinion of Mr Lammers purely theoretical value."
Those deliberations were, as my opponents themselves have argued,
solely concerned with what to do with the Mischlinge and the
like. The document is quite plain; and it was dictated by a lawyer,
so he presumably knew what he was writing. There is no room for
argument. My opponents have pretended for years that this document
effectively does not exist.,
The International Endeavour to destroy my Legitimacy as an
Historian,
les organisations juives poursuivent plusieurs
buts: faire interdire de publication, de vente, de conférences
et de recherche dans les archives parce que "Lipstadt's files
after referring to my "thorough
archival research" and "genuine historical insight"
as follows:"Given
this accurate version of reality, it is all the more clear why
his activities must be curtailed, and why his [David Irving's]
alleged legitimacy must be eradicated."
destruction
des livres par Mac Millan, sans
qu'irving soit informé. (1992); la guerre déclarée
par les juifs est annoncée telle quelle dans the independent,
Histoire
d'Auschwitz ,
ouvert comme mémorial du martyre
des Polonais et d'autres peuples, en 1948.
Les morts d'Auschwitz:
- How many had died at Auschwitz?
We still do not now with certainty, because the tragic figure
has become an object of politics too. Professor Arno Mayer,
Professor of European History at the University of Princeton,
a scholar of considerably greater renommée than Professor
Evans, and himself a Jew, expressed the view in one book that
most of the victims of the camp died of exhaustion and epidemics.
"From
1942 to 1945 more Jews died, at least in Auschwitz, and probably
everywhere else, of 'natural' causes of death than of 'unnatural.'"107,
le
nombre des morts: les russes parlent
d'abord de 300000, le procès de Cracovie s'en tient à
ce nombre (1947), puis le nombre augmente. Il ne parle pas des
900.000 mais directement des quatre millions et de la stèle,
très
intéressante description
de la position des historiens (bauer, finkelstein, reitlinger,
hilberg,
Wannsee: "silly
story",qu'on nous a ressorti sans arrêt pendant
le procès
The
Leuchter Report,
Leuchter n'a pas été refusé
comme expert, son rapport n'a pas été accepté
parce que les trib<. canadiens n'acceptent pas les rapports
techniques à l'audience mais seulement les dépositions
d'experts; leuchter n'a pas été exclu comme expert,
il a été limité à la poss d'utilisation
des chs comme chs homicides; un chimiste Roth a commenté
les résultats chimiques en faveur des rév.
The
Morgue roof,
Van
Pelt invente que les nazis ont rebouché les trous du leichenkeller
I; mais ils ont détruit celui du leichekeller II. Pour Irving, cela revient à créer
volontairement des restes archéologiques prouvant leur
crime.
Mauvaise foi de Van Pelt:
- Where until this moment he had seen dots on another photograph with no difficulty,
the witness Van Pelt now pleaded poor eyesight ("I have now reached
the age I need reading glasses," he said, "and I do not have them with me. I did not
expect this kind of challenge."
Precisely.)
Krema
II as air raid shelter,
Moral certainty: trois fois ds le rapport
de Van Pelt
I will not dwell long on the uniformly poor evidentiary
basis on the other extermination camps, known to the Court as
the Operation Reinhard camps. - Belzec, Sobibor and Treblinka.
Here we do not even have the "moral certainty" which
comforted Professor Van Pelt, Browning
admet que pour ses camps, les xolurces sont rares, qu'il n'y a
aucune preuve documentaire.
The allegations of racism and anti-Semitism
The speeches and lectures,
Extremist organisations and people,
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